Interviewee: Every great Church is born. They're born in confusion. There's confusion. There's actually chaos in the Church. Growth is chaos. But amongst chaos is where the miracles take place. However, if you stay in chaos, you'll be destroyed. Steven Siwek, Jr.: We're doing a project today called Future of the Church. And when you hear that phrase, Future of the Church, what comes to your mind? Glory unlimited presents Jack Debartolo 3: It's an interesting phrase, because the first word in that phrase is future. And my fear about the word future is that future always sounds like something that is tomorrow. And so there's a lack of action.

1 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,880 Toute grande Église naît dans la confusion. 2 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:31,320 En réalité, le chaos règne dans l'Église, du fait de son essor. 3 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,920 Mais c'est dans le chaos que les miracles surgissent. 4 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,440 Toutefois, si le chaos perdure, il vous détruira. 5 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:52,040 Que vous évoque notre projet, "L'avenir de l'Église" ? Glory unlimited présente

6 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,720 C'est intéressant, notamment le mot "avenir". 7 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,880 Mon inquiétude, c'est que l'avenir devienne synonyme de lendemain, 8 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,680 et donc, d'inaction.

38 Jack Debartolo 3: And I think my concern about it, it's a catchy phrase, but the idea of the future of the Church doesn't seem to talk about the present of the Church. Kary Kingsland: America still is a relatively church culture, though it's changing fast. Thom Schultz: Virtually every denomination in the United States is in decline. I grew up playing sports, where you go to the home team, they cheer you. When you're in the visiting team, they boo you. We're now the visiting team. Donald Enevoldsen: I believe in America, we have passed the point where we can take it for granted that the Church is going to get the benefit of the doubt politically or in any other way. This nation has changed a lot. And I think it's changed a lot,

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9 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,160 Bien que cette phrase soit accrocheuse, 10 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,960 je redoute que l'on en oublie le présent de l'Église. 11 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,360 Notre culture évolue vite mais reste assez ecclésiale. 12 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,480 Presque toutes les confessions perdent des adeptes aux États-Unis. 13 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:29,320 Souvent, dans le sport américain, l'équipe extérieure se fait huer. 14 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,800 L'Église se fait huer. 15 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:39,520 Je crois que l'Église n'obtiendra plus forcément le bénéfice du doute, 16 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,560 en politique, par exemple. 17 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:43,920 Le pays a fort changé,